Lying Down with Big Dogs: JPMorgan Chase
The old saying, “When you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas” appears to be the guiding maxim today in our industry as it deals with the portfolios of debt it is either sold or assigned by financial institutions. And it is fair to say that JPMorgan Chase is one of the biggest dogs with the biggest fleas.
Readers of insideARM.com yesterday were treated to exactly what this maxim means to our industry when a major article critical of JPMorgan Chase’s credit card collections – referencing now-famous whistleblower Linda Almonte – was published in response to a major expose piece just released in American Banker.
This first of a three-part series which will all be published this week was important enough for insideARM.com to devote front-page status to it, even reaching out to Linda to substantiate some of the details. That was a good thing. But, where were this publication and others, and members of the ARM family, when Linda Almonte fought Chase for almost two and one-half years for wrongful termination?
[editor’s note: insideARM.com has published Mr Ashton’s content regarding Ms Almonte.]
Other than a posting on Forbes of a piece I wrote originally titled: Damned if you Do, Fired if you Don’t, precious little.
[editor’s note: Please use the search function on the homepage to search for “Almonte” where you will find many stories regarding Ms Almonte and Chase.]
Add up the column inches in almost any publication and on any website in our field and you will find more time and energy is spent in defending our line of work than in curing its ills. We need to stop this; and this just may be the right time and the right atmosphere in which we can turn this thinking around.
Stephanie Eidelman in a brilliant and well-written blog in Forbes properly placed a good share of the blame where it belongs for our industry’s poor reputation and public image. “Creditors Play an Unrecognized and Powerful Role in the Debt Collection Process” laid out these facts:
- Agencies represent the creditor “and hold their reputations in their hands;” however
- Creditors hire collection agencies for their recovery rates and price, not for their well-trained staff or complaint rates; and
- Even if the creditor in its assignments require “quality control” policies for account handling, the bottom line is that what gets measured are the dollars recovered.
“There isn’t nearly enough money in the debt collection industry to lobby Congress for rules that could force creditors to perform appropriate due diligence…provide complete documentation…” And, ends the article by responding to critics:
“We can all complain about collectors, but the reality is that you’ve got to go upstream to address the issue.”
Which leads me to ask the question – is our industry willing to do that? When we get obviously flawed accounts on our desk, whether by assignment or purchase, do we as a matter of practice and ethics go back to the creditor and cause them to be accountable – and to correct the situation or even be reported if the matter were serious?
I think we know the answer.
That “Big Dog” might just bite us – or take away the bone they threw us. Maybe, just maybe, it is worth putting up with those fleabites.
What we need to do is to foster and develop “Whistleblowers” of our own, people in our own offices who will stand up – as Linda Almonte did to her employer – and say, “This isn’t right!” And then to be willing to risk their jobs if need be, so as not to be accomplice in further illegal and arguably immoral activities.
On the other hand, we could simply curl up with those Big Dogs and hope that the extra-strength flea powder we dusted ourselves with will work. Oh yes, and only dog whistles allowed.
Whadday think?



It is every individual’s ethical responsibility to do the right things, for the right reasons, at the right time. It is the obligation of any organization to foster doing the right things, by all staff — regardless the consequences — and for management… from the front line supervisor all the way to the chairman to support those choices. Our customers, our leaders, our teams, and our stakeholders deserve nothing less.
We certainly agree on this, Andrew, and I doubt that there are any out there who don’t hold similar views.
The challenge is not in the theory, but in the practice. I would like to hear from people who have experienced both resistance as well as support in attempting to follow such guidelnes. There are good people out there; will they also be “good people” in outing bad practices?
That paycheck is very important – Ask Linda Almonte. It took MONTHS for her to land employment.
Didn’t take long for Time magazine to pick up on the Almonte story: http://moneyland.time.com/2012/03/15/regulator-probes-chase-over-allegations-of-robosigning-in-credit-card-collections/
And they added a nice little touch about credit card “zombie debt.” http://moneyland.time.com/2012/01/10/zombie-debt-a-real-life-horror-story/
So, anyone here want to place an order for flea powder? Ordering wholesale should bring the price down.
And, I would love to hear from those who have “Big Dog” clients other than Chase that they have had to deal with – and how you handled not-quite-kosher assignments.
How a Whistleblower Halted JPMorgan Chase’s Card Collection
In this second in a series on JPMorgan Chase’s delinquent credit card collections operation, reporter Jeff Horwitz reveals what the bank learned to its horror – you don’t mess with Linda Almonte.
http://www.americanbanker.com/issues/177_52/jpmorgan-chase-credit-card-collections-1047573-1.html
Almost 2 yrs ago I Wrote about Whistleblowers. It seems prophetic of Linda Almonte & Chase Bank. http://writtenoffamerica.com/hey-whistle-blowers/
Policies and procedures do they really work? In both these cases, polices and procedures to protect whistle blowers did not work. How has JPM enhanced their policies and procedures in this regard over the past 8 years?
A Sample of the Wall Street/Washington Incest
JP Morgan 2004 (Mutual Funds)
http://online.wsj.com/article/0,,SB110435632010212266,00.html
Dimon For Demos 2009
Theodore Dimon (JP Morgan/Bear Stearns/Stockbroker), (Zip code: 10021) $250 to GEORGE DEMOS FOR CONGRESS on 11/25/09
George Demos 2010 (Disgraced SEC Enforcement Attorney)
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/01/28/long-island-congressional-candidate-cited-for-giving-up-jpmorgan/
Jamie Dimon 2010 (“Do The Right Thing”)
http://www.sec.gov/comments/df-title-ix/whistleblower/whistleblower-24.htm
JP Morgan 2012 (Credit Cards)
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/j-p-morgan-chases-ugly-family-secrets-revealed-20120313
Sign The Petition 2012 (What The Hell Is Going On?)
http://www.change.org/petitions/ny-committee-on-professional-standards-make-public-the-investigation-of-george-demos
The famous Policies and Procedures conundrum. Are they written for the auditors and lawyers to place their hands on and “swear by,” just window-dressing while business-as-usual goes on?
You may a good point, Peter Sivere. Please feel free to go to LinkedIn and connect with me directly.
Jerry Ashton • If you have not been keeping up with the Occupy Movement and the effect it WILL have on our industry, you should. They claim to be fighting for the rights of the 99% (that’s you, me and every debtor in the U.S.), and have targeted Big Banks in general and JPMorgan Chase specifically. Several were arrested in Seattle at a Chase Bank demonstration.
This is what a jury of six in Seattle thought about Chase vs. Occupy – not guilty!
“And in the end, they were free.
“We had a unanimous verdict from six-person jury,” Liam Wright, one of the so-called “Chase 5,” jubilantly reported from the steps of Seattle Municipal Court on Thursday evening, marking the end of the first degree criminal trespass charges that have been pending since Occupy Seattle’s November 2 demonstration that forced the closure of Chase Bank branch.
The fate of Wright, Danielle Simmons, Sarah Svobodny, Hudson William-Eynon and Michael Stevens was unanimously decided by a six-member jury that deliberated for five and a half hours after three days of testimony.
“We shut down a bank for the entire day,” Wright recounted. “People dove under the police van to keep us from going to jail. We chained ourselves together inside. We admitted this and then got a non-guilty verdict. Yeah.
“I am in shock,” Simmons said after the verdict was read. “The jury decided that our actions were justified and whether this is because they thought it was somehow lawful or just the right thing to do, something is changing, and I think it’s beautiful.”
“Every aspect of the action has gone far beyond what was expected,” Wright added, including the demonstration in question, when the crowd cheering on the Chase Bank occupiers then marched to a nearby Sheraton Hotel, where JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon was giving a speech. The demonstration cut his speech short.”
http://occupiedmedia.us/2012/03/breaking-chase-5-not-guilty/
I pointed out in another discussion thread on this subject, that Linda Almonte is getting help from an unlikely ally – the Occupy Wall Street Movement. If you aren’t watching this phenomenon carefully, don’t blame me in getting caught up in this social movement Tsunami.
They have targeted banks in general, and Chase in particular, to protest against. One in Seattle resulted in the arrest of six demonstrators – but the trial outcome was unexpected.
This is what a jury of six in Seattle thought about Chase vs. Occupy – not guilty!
And in the end, they were free.
“We had a unanimous verdict from six-person jury,” Liam Wright, one of the so-called “Chase 5,” jubilantly reported from the steps of Seattle Municipal Court on Thursday evening, marking the end of the first degree criminal trespass charges that have been pending since Occupy Seattle’s November 2 demonstration that forced the closure of Chase Bank branch.
The fate of Wright, Danielle Simmons, Sarah Svobodny, Hudson William-Eynon and Michael Stevens was unanimously decided by a six-member jury that deliberated for five and a half hours after three days of testimony.
“We shut down a bank for the entire day,” Wright recounted. “People dove under the police van to keep us from going to jail. We chained ourselves together inside. We admitted this and then got a non-guilty verdict. Yeah.
“I am in shock,” Simmons said after the verdict was read. “The jury decided that our actions were justified and whether this is because they thought it was somehow lawful or just the right thing to do, something is changing, and I think it’s beautiful.”
“Every aspect of the action has gone far beyond what was expected,” Wright added, including the demonstration in question, when the crowd cheering on the Chase Bank occupiers then marched to a nearby Sheraton Hotel, where JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon was giving a speech. The demonstration cut his speech short.
http://occupiedmedia.us/2012/03/breaking-chase-5-not-guilty/
Great job Linda! I was also an employee in Chase Card service and was fired for discrimination and questioning my performance evaluations but I refuse to take a settlement of their offer because I can not get a job even out of banking. I have a BS in Marketing Management w/concentration in Accounting and I can not even get a job as a crossing guard. LOL!
unsecured debt 2009, WAMU at the time, people just getting served lately on old debt?