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Interview: John McNamara, Chief Marketing Officer at LiveVox

July 17, 2008
 

insideARM recently spoke with John McNamara, a 25-year ARM industry veteran. McNamara shared his experience in the industry and changes he's seen, providing some fascinating insight on how the debt collection business has changed and the drivers behind the change.

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Q. What do you see as the biggest change in the collections business today versus when you started?

A. The biggest change is segmentation of the business. Different parts of the accounts are worked by different groups. An account today might see low-skilled skip tracing work from India, more involved skip tracing from the Philippines, and right party connect work from an experienced collector in Ohio. A lot of that segmentation depends on the willingness of agency decision makers to outsource large functions of the business. When I started, most agencies had their own print shops for printed materials, they don’t any more. Now huge chunks of the collection business are outsourced.

Q. Why did you shift from the collections industry to technology?

A. In 2004, I ran a champion-challenger with LiveVox and other companies. When I looked at right party contacts, I was astounded with what great products they had. The president had a real passion for the business. I recommended LiveVox to my friends. In early 2008, they told me they were looking for someone to be their chief marketing officer. When I heard about what they were looking for in a chief marketing officer, I thought that sounded like me. They asked if I would be interested. I still kept a financial interest in my other business, however.

Q. How is the current economy affecting the collections business?

A. Bill collectors do not like recessions. We receive more placements as charge-offs go up, but it’s much harder to collect on those accounts. There are more accounts, but the payments people make are less. So unit transaction costs go up.

Q. Why do you think consumer delinquencies have risen so much?

A. The average consumer is financially stressed. They’re carrying credit card debt and dealing with the high cost of gasoline. Income and credit scores are stretched. Many people bought a lot more home than they needed or wanted. When they needed more credit, they used home equity loans. Now they’re having a hard time paying these back.

Q. Is the increase in delinquencies due to current economic conditions or is this a major change in consumer attitudes regarding the timeliness of payments?

A. It’s a sea change in attitudes. If you think about your parents, they wouldn’t file for bankruptcy unless they absolutely had to. Now credit is seen more as an entitlement. There’s not really a stigma in filing for bankruptcy. It’s no longer seen as a sign of failure, but as a way to make a fresh start. It’s a financial do-over.

Chief Marketing Officer for LiveVox and chairman and founder of Fidelis Recovery Solutions, Inc, John McNamara is a 25-year industry veteran with experience in all phases of collection and recovery operations with intense focus on technology applications. Prior to joining LiveVox, John was COO for AMO, SVP of Operations for Nationwide Credit/ACB and VP of Operations for United Recovery Systems, LP.

John is a frequent speaker/panelist at national collection conferences. John was recently named to Collection Advisor magazine's list of the Top 50 Most Influential Collection Professionals for 2006. In 2007, John was appointed Vice President and Board Member of the Georgia Collectors Association.

John is a summa cum laude graduate of Kennesaw State University with a Bachelor of Business Administration degree in Finance.


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